Naota's Absent Mother (and a question)

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Postby darkdaxter » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:41 am

Kamon is a perv #1 because he is a guy (I'm a guy, and I will admit that all guys are pervs...but so are girls, not as much but still^^) and #2 he is f'n lonely. You can see that he really drifted from his father already and of course has no intention of returning, and he smothers Naota because of it. Kamon is very insecure, which would give a reason as to why he would take his wife's surname. Kamon is constantly projecting his own feelings onto his son and then wants to rationalize his son's projected behavior. But as we know, this never works!!! Once a parent begins to use a child to solve their problems, most of the relationship is nulled.

Shigekuni took the name probably because of respect, to honor both his son and his daughter-in-law.

I lean more towards maternal death. Naota was obviously hit by it a while ago, as he NEVER talks about it. While a death may plague a person's mind for a while after it happens, no matter how close that person was to you, they will drift away from your thoughts. As a result, Naota has repressed her position in his life, and replaced it with his older brother, whom he looked up to with great respect and admiration. Naota, like his father, is insecure and looks to others for stability.

*WOW that went all over the place, but I'm glad to post here after so long^^
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Postby William » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:22 pm

I geuss I could agree with you.
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Postby Psychonaut » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:18 am

darkdaxter wrote:Kamon is a perv #1 because he is a guy (I'm a guy, and I will admit that all guys are pervs...but so are girls, not as much but still^^) and #2 he is f'n lonely. You can see that he really drifted from his father already and of course has no intention of returning, and he smothers Naota because of it. Kamon is very insecure, which would give a reason as to why he would take his wife's surname. Kamon is constantly projecting his own feelings onto his son and then wants to rationalize his son's projected behavior. But as we know, this never works!!! Once a parent begins to use a child to solve their problems, most of the relationship is nulled.

Shigekuni took the name probably because of respect, to honor both his son and his daughter-in-law.

I lean more towards maternal death. Naota was obviously hit by it a while ago, as he NEVER talks about it. While a death may plague a person's mind for a while after it happens, no matter how close that person was to you, they will drift away from your thoughts. As a result, Naota has repressed her position in his life, and replaced it with his older brother, whom he looked up to with great respect and admiration. Naota, like his father, is insecure and looks to others for stability.

*WOW that went all over the place, but I'm glad to post here after so long^^


nice. I didn't think that went all over the place, it was pretty controlled. I guess Naota's brother is kind of a "motherly" figure, (...yeah) or another parental figure.

you ought to post some more thoughts about stuff, you seem to have a lot to say :)
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Re: Naota's Absent Mother (and a question)

Postby god of FLCL » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:50 am

as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

When is that mentioned I've seen the show like 19 times and never once heard that being mentioned (and believe me I've herd a lot)
and I think that Shigekuni is naota's mother's father because kamon never calls him dad or even shigekuni
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Postby William » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:55 am

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Re: Naota's Absent Mother (and a question)

Postby Psychonaut » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:14 am

god of FLCL wrote:
as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

When is that mentioned I've seen the show like 19 times and never once heard that being mentioned (and believe me I've herd a lot)
and I think that Shigekuni is naota's mother's father because kamon never calls him dad or even shigekuni


naota's mother and the last name are never mentioned in the show (possibly some hidden backwards subliminal messages? :lol:) but in Disc 2's booklet, it explains that Kamon took on the name Nandaba. as for Shigekuni, he calls him "dad" "I even got you a live-in housekeeper out of it dad!" etc. so really, it's up in the air. either shigekuni took on the name for his son, or he's kamon's father in law.

either way, Kamon DID take on Naota's wives'a name. (it's a solid fact, it's in the booklet)
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Postby darkdaxter » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:03 am

Psychonaut wrote:
darkdaxter wrote:Kamon is a perv #1 because he is a guy (I'm a guy, and I will admit that all guys are pervs...but so are girls, not as much but still^^) and #2 he is f'n lonely. You can see that he really drifted from his father already and of course has no intention of returning, and he smothers Naota because of it. Kamon is very insecure, which would give a reason as to why he would take his wife's surname. Kamon is constantly projecting his own feelings onto his son and then wants to rationalize his son's projected behavior. But as we know, this never works!!! Once a parent begins to use a child to solve their problems, most of the relationship is nulled.

Shigekuni took the name probably because of respect, to honor both his son and his daughter-in-law.

I lean more towards maternal death. Naota was obviously hit by it a while ago, as he NEVER talks about it. While a death may plague a person's mind for a while after it happens, no matter how close that person was to you, they will drift away from your thoughts. As a result, Naota has repressed her position in his life, and replaced it with his older brother, whom he looked up to with great respect and admiration. Naota, like his father, is insecure and looks to others for stability.

*WOW that went all over the place, but I'm glad to post here after so long^^


nice. I didn't think that went all over the place, it was pretty controlled. I guess Naota's brother is kind of a "motherly" figure, (...yeah) or another parental figure.

you ought to post some more thoughts about stuff, you seem to have a lot to say :)

thanks! its sort of funny cuz I sound like a hypocrite when I say I don't talk much^^ But seriously I never do anywhere else! only here! and thanks^^
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Re: Naota's Absent Mother (and a question)

Postby god of FLCL » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:09 pm

Psychonaut wrote:naota's mother and the last name are never mentioned in the show (possibly some hidden backwards subliminal messages? :lol:) but in Disc 2's booklet, it explains that Kamon took on the name Nandaba. as for Shigekuni, he calls him "dad" "I even got you a live-in housekeeper out of it dad!" etc. so really, it's up in the air. either shigekuni took on the name for his son, or he's kamon's father in law.

either way, Kamon DID take on Naota's wives'a name. (it's a solid fact, it's in the booklet)

Yes I know that it is in the booklet.also it's typical to call your father-in-law "dad". but I'm asking when if at all is it said in the show that kamon took his wifes name? after all it could be implied and the director is clarifying in the booklet. right?
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Re: Naota's Absent Mother (and a question)

Postby Psychonaut » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:20 pm

god of FLCL wrote:
Psychonaut wrote:naota's mother and the last name are never mentioned in the show (possibly some hidden backwards subliminal messages? :lol:) but in Disc 2's booklet, it explains that Kamon took on the name Nandaba. as for Shigekuni, he calls him "dad" "I even got you a live-in housekeeper out of it dad!" etc. so really, it's up in the air. either shigekuni took on the name for his son, or he's kamon's father in law.

either way, Kamon DID take on Naota's wives'a name. (it's a solid fact, it's in the booklet)

Yes I know that it is in the booklet.also it's typical to call your father-in-law "dad". but I'm asking when if at all is it said in the show that kamon took his wifes name? after all it could be implied and the director is clarifying in the booklet. right?


true it could be implied, and they didn't mention it in the actual show, it just sounded like you were saying it wasn't true. sorry about the miscommunication :D but no, I don't think it's implied either. it's strange really... almost like naota had no mom :lol:

has anyone noticed something along these lines in the dvd commentary? there might be a part pointed out that explains this kind of missing character thing.
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Postby Johnny Ramone » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:53 pm

My brother developed a theory I would like to share with you:
Naota has no mother, for he was created in a lab and contains the soul of Lilith. He was then entrusted to the Commander (Kamon).
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Postby William » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:57 pm

Hes not Kwoaru...
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Postby William » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:58 pm

I wonder if Noata could be adopted..
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Postby Johnny Ramone » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:00 pm

William wrote:Hes not Kwoaru...

I belive he was referencing Rei.
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Postby William » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:03 pm

Could be...don't remmber who was developed in a lab, I thought for sure it was Kwoaru.


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Postby Johnny Ramone » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:06 pm

And Naota's brother is the result of Kamon's marraige to his wife who was
killed in a tragic Laboratory accident.
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