Naota's Absent Mother (and a question)

[Cirque]

Hello! I'm new here, and can I just say this is an awesome forum board? But I have a couple things to ask.

First of all, could somebody please help me and briefly describe to me N.O. and what it is, or, post a link to the topic it was discussed in? Thank you.

The other question I have is just more thought-provoking, perhaps it has already been discussed--Naota's mother. Why is there no mention of her whatsoever in the series? I can see why there wouldn't be, seeing as Haruko stands as a guardian figure for Naota, and a mother in the series would almost just get in the way, but is there any insight into why there isn't at least any mention of her? And what effect do you think it's had on Naota, to have only his father and grandfather before Haruko, in a very male household?

Thoughts?

[Psychonaut]

Hello! I'm new here, and can I just say this is an awesome forum board? But I have a couple things to ask.

First of all, could somebody please help me and briefly describe to me N.O. and what it is, or, post a link to the topic it was discussed in? Thank you.

The other question I have is just more thought-provoking, perhaps it has already been discussed--Naota's mother. Why is there no mention of her whatsoever in the series? I can see why there wouldn't be, seeing as Haruko stands as a guardian figure for Naota, and a mother in the series would almost just get in the way, but is there any insight into why there isn't at least any mention of her? And what effect do you think it's had on Naota, to have only his father and grandfather before Haruko, in a very male household?

Thoughts?

http://flclw.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2214
as for N.O., it basically comes from the left and right side of the brain working together, but that link kinda describes some other things too.

as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

one thing could be if she's with Naota's brother in America (never really mentioned, but a possibility)

another thing could be a death, therefore speaking about it would be disrespectful to his dad, and Shigekuni would know (even though he's kinda mean ) that his son feels deeply about it, therefore mention would be uhm... yeah, you get it I think.

another thing, could be a divorce, which is also just another possibility. the only real problem with that would be why Kamon retained his wives name, when even from the start doing that is looked down upon in his culture. strange yes, but never mentioned, so I don't think anyone will have a definite answer.

[jidfurikuri]

yeah...that's what i always thought....I just kinda assumed that his mom was dead or she left them or something of that sort....maybe there's a deeper meaning behind it....
as for N.O. .....that's what Naota uses to get robots to come out of his head...in lamest terms..... "N.O. utilizes... ...the right and left brain's thought process. In life-threatening situations it can open an interdemensional channel to pull things through..."FLCL book 2!!
(wow O_O ima nerd......)

[William]

exactly what I thought Phsyconuat, yet of course that goes beyond the means of the show...so its for you too deside basically.

[yellowrock]

i think (personally) that Kamon never was married to Naotas mother, one reason is that Kamon is just such an obvious pervert, and in the manga he asks Naota if he wants a new mom (shortly after, Naota kills him with a bat to the face). so i think they lived together for awhile, and Naota remembers her, but she either left, or died. also Naota kind of looks at Haruko for a mother figure towards the end (kind of).

...yeah im probably wrong again but oh well...

[William]

My friend, says Noata's mom died in child birth, another possibility. Yet for some reason I got the feeling she died..

[William]

Cause the way he reacted, when Kamon said that,...shows sensitivity and caring. Like someone who might of known her for a while before she died.
Yeah it is true Kamon is a pervert, yet still its possible.

[Really Terminal Core]

as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

I'm under impression that Shigekuni is a first name, hence Kamon Nandaba and Shigekuni Nandaba.

Wherever his mother is (or is not) Kamon doesn't seem to care. He's not just a pervert, he's generally a loon. And since Naota doesn't mention her at all, it's probably that it happened too long ago for him to remember.

[William]

as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

I'm under impression that Shigekuni is a first name, hence Kamon Nandaba and Shigekuni Nandaba.

Wherever his mother is (or is not) Kamon doesn't seem to care. He's not just a pervert, he's generally a loon. And since Naota doesn't mention her at all, it's probably that it happened too long ago for him to remember.

Well in Asian cultures sir names go first. Such as Bou Weilien
Bou is a sirname, in english the name is William Bauman.

[Cirque]

Hello! I'm new here, and can I just say this is an awesome forum board? :D But I have a couple things to ask.

First of all, could somebody please help me and briefly describe to me N.O. and what it is, or, post a link to the topic it was discussed in? Thank you.

The other question I have is just more thought-provoking, perhaps it has already been discussed--Naota's mother. Why is there no mention of her whatsoever in the series? I can see why there wouldn't be, seeing as Haruko stands as a guardian figure for Naota, and a mother in the series would almost just get in the way, but is there any insight into why there isn't at least any mention of her? And what effect do you think it's had on Naota, to have only his father and grandfather before Haruko, in a very male household?

Thoughts?

http://flclw.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2214
as for N.O., it basically comes from the left and right side of the brain working together, but that link kinda describes some other things too.

as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

one thing could be if she's with Naota's brother in America (never really mentioned, but a possibility)

another thing could be a death, therefore speaking about it would be disrespectful to his dad, and Shigekuni would know (even though he's kinda mean :lol:) that his son feels deeply about it, therefore mention would be uhm... yeah, you get it I think.

another thing, could be a divorce, which is also just another possibility. the only real problem with that would be why Kamon retained his wives name, when even from the start doing that is looked down upon in his culture. strange yes, but never mentioned, so I don't think anyone will have a definite answer.

Thanks for the info on N.O.! :)

Does anyone know if there was ever a mother in the series? Like in the early stages of FLCL brainstorming? Or is that just beyond anyone's knowledge...? It seems kind of odd that there wouldn't even be any hint as to where she is. It's an odd thing to leave up to someone's imagination--for example, we don't really know anything about Haruko's past as an alien but that's a fun thing to think up. Why would they leave something like Naota's mother untouched?

Again I'm just thinking aloud here :D I never noticed that Kamon's last name was different, thanks for pointing that out.

[Really Terminal Core]

Well in Asian cultures sir names go first. Such as Bou Weilien

I know, but the poster I was answering wrote "Kamon Nandaba" and I thought that if I write the name in correct order, I'd confuse him even more.

[William]

Lol, oh!

[Psychonaut]

as for the mother, she is kind of mentioned, but very very slightly. the only real mention is that Kamon (Naota's dad) has Naota's mothers last name, therefore, he took it on. (Nandaba btw) see, Shigekuni is Kamon's dad, therefore it would be Kamon Shigekuni, however for some reason he changed it. I think that's the only real mention, and there's many reasons why she could not be there/mentioned.

I'm under impression that Shigekuni is a first name, hence Kamon Nandaba and Shigekuni Nandaba.

Wherever his mother is (or is not) Kamon doesn't seem to care. He's not just a pervert, he's generally a loon. And since Naota doesn't mention her at all, it's probably that it happened too long ago for him to remember.

ok, upon pulling out the disc 2 booklet, it is Kamon Nandaba and Shigekuni Nandaba, and it says
"Married into the Nandaba family, he's an ex-subcultural zine editor.1 His car is a Citroen GS1220 CLUB Break. 'I gor run over, you know'

at the bottom of the page it says
"1Kamon took his wife's name. Not a common practice in Japan. Makes a man appear weak and an object of ridicule by his family."

sooo...

it looks like shigekuni being kamon's real dad is slim, unless shigekuni also took it on, which was not mentioned at all.

it doesn't solve the mystery of naota's mom, but it does tell us about kamon, and a little bit of his and his mom's relationship was more than just hit it and quit it, but more of a marriage (if you ask me)

converse!

[I am Alive]

I think Naota's mother died while Naota was around the age of 7 or 8. It was early enough to really effect Naota's psyche yet still recent enough to be a "hush" topic in the Nandaba household. It would explain Naota's insecurity and Kamon's pervertedness.

[Psychonaut]

I think Naota's mother died while Naota was around the age of 7 or 8. It was early enough to really effect Naota's psyche yet still recent enough to be a "hush" topic in the Nandaba household. It would explain Naota's insecurity and Kamon's pervertedness.

that makes sense, it would explain why he's so quiet, and Shigekuni's so grumpy, all the time. but Kamon is probably just Kamon, BUT it could be linked.