love triangles in evangileon

[Squirrel Ninja]

Kwoaru's mind was very open, very liberal. Rei was very passive in her relationships, and Gendo had alot of control over her actions. But I do think she had control over her thoughts when she wasn't ordered to do otherwise, she like Shinji just had trouble expressing them.
I think the reason most people don't point that out about Kwoaru is that they are afraid of social backlash. The conservative Christiantian community would consider it blasphemy. As a Christian I can tell you that Christianitys biggest problem is there literal interpretation of the bible, and their quickness to condemn people of blasphemy. I agree though, Kwoaru was a very admirable charecter in the show, he displayed in action many of Christs teahings: don't judge, love each other, be open, that sort of thing.

[William]

I agree completely, and understand that with the christian community...yet of course most likely the conservative christian community aren't watching eva in the first place, so that did not really apply to them...
it more or less applied to the people who are very invovled in the show, such as you and myself.
I already realize that the christain conservative community is quick to judge, and interrput things litterally...
The bible is just a bunch of old scriptures pieced together...

[Squirrel Ninja]

Right, all religions are true in their metaphorical religious truth. If people were able to understand that we wouldn't be in the kind of religious trouble that were in. I know that if my aunt, a very conservative Christian, were to watch Eva and I even implied that it had any value let alone religious value, I would be called a heretic.

[William]

I see... This is the same with me, those evangelical christians, and those exetremist muslims, are to overwhelmed in what there text says word for word, and take it word for word...

Eva, is suprisely very buddthist in nature as well...

[Squirrel Ninja]

I noticed that, I noticed that with FLCL to a degree as well. No one who worked on Evangelion was Christian actually, they insist that all the symbolism was purely cosmetic. However, intended or not the message is in the bible too, if you open your mind to it and don't get so caught up in what your believing. Interestingly enough one of the Christian apcoatherial texts, the Gospel of Thomas, is basically Buddthist teaching in a Christian package. I personally really like it, however it talks about identifying yourself with the Christ in you, basically it's the same idea that everyone can archive nerviana, was considered herrisy by the church at the time.

[William]

exactly, with buddhism its the same, to find the buddha in your mirror, as itself is the title for a well known buddthist commentary, I never read the gospel of thomas, I think I should look at that...

[Squirrel Ninja]

I need to read through the whole thing myself. It's a very interesting text, it's main problems for not ending up in the bible were: the church's preoccupation with historical facts and timetables and it's association with Gnosticism which got a bad rap early on with Christianity.

[William]

yes Ive heard of the gnostic...
Yet I could understand during that time why they would not put that in the bible, I wonder if the bible will develop anymore from modern day, or stay the same...
in eva, it has the theme of it being the next gospel...

[Squirrel Ninja]

Not a chance in hell that the church would consider amending the gospel. In there mind, the canonical gospel consists of every text, and exclusively texts that were inspired by God. When you've got it in your head that what your reading is the words of God himself, your not going to change a letter in that book. There in lies the problem. Someone smart once said, "religion is a defense against a religious experience.", theres your proof. I personally believe that if you raised a child on the principles of Eva, that are basically the principles of every religion ever, you would have a very compassionate well adjusted kid. A time where the masses are going to take spiritual guidance from "a cartoon", however are way off in the distance.

[one_armed_scissor]

Not a chance in hell that the church would consider amending the gospel. In there mind, the canonical gospel consists of every text, and exclusively texts that were inspired by God. When you've got it in your head that what your reading is the words of God himself, your not going to change a letter in that book. There in lies the problem. Someone smart once said, "religion is a defense against a religious experience.", theres your proof. I personally believe that if you raised a child on the principles of Eva, that are basically the principles of every religion ever, you would have a very compassionate well adjusted kid. A time where the masses are going to take spiritual guidance from "a cartoon", however are way off in the distance.

im kinda like that
which is why people consider me
insane.
but its from people who just say
"he follows a cartoon!what a freak!"
whatever im quite a well-rounded spiritual person.

[yellowrock]

what does any of this have to do with love triangles in eva?

[one_armed_scissor]

what does any of this have to do with love triangles in eva?

it is kinda starting to trail off a tad
so we should get back to the love triangles in eva

[William]

what does any of this have to do with love triangles in eva?

it is kinda starting to trail off a tad
so we should get back to the love triangles in eva

its all connected to the love triangles of Kwoaru and shinji, it has everything to do with it!

Yet I believe we have summed most of it up quite well, it was a good thread, there is probably more we have to say...

and if we did continue the christian conversation, yellowrock would have nothing to do about it... but anyway, lets see whatelse we have to contribute...( And yellowrock you shoulden't be talking, you contributed nothing of philosophical or factual interest to the thread)

But really lets see...

[Squirrel Ninja]

im kinda like that
which is why people consider me
insane.
but its from people who just say
"he follows a cartoon!what a freak!"
whatever im quite a well-rounded spiritual person.

That's what I'm saying, I'm assuming most of those people have never watched Eva, or didn't get it, or would be too afraid to accept something so culturally against the norm. On an interesting note Kwoaru's angelic name is Tabris, the angel of free will. I think that ties into his whole personality of ethical relativism, and going against what society deems normal, it's especially ironic given his sexuality that an angel is going so drastically against the teachings of the church.

[one_armed_scissor]

im kinda like that
which is why people consider me
insane.
but its from people who just say
"he follows a cartoon!what a freak!"
whatever im quite a well-rounded spiritual person.

That's what I'm saying, I'm assuming most of those people have never watched Eva, or didn't get it, or would be too afraid to accept something so culturally against the norm. On an interesting note Kwoaru's angelic name is Tabris, the angel of free will. I think that ties into his whole personality of ethical relativism, and going against what society deems normal, it's especially ironic given his sexuality that an angel is going so drastically against the teachings of the church.

i guess you feel the same way i feel
im catholic but i am willing to realize that there are
other religions out there
not just one.
and i just follow the ways of other religions in order
for me to be a good person
if only some people would just
realize it
but not all people watch eva
so we can only hope.

(i know im gonna get negative responses for this so fire away!)


totally non-topic,anyone like ma sig?